Posts Tagged ‘tanking’

filtering heroic tanking loot

Tuesday, December 30th, 2008

A while ago I did a post on tanking blues from Northrend instances.  I got a surprising amount of use out of that list.  I’d take a peek at it before running with some PUG to make sure that I have quests whose rewards are actually useful.

I started running heroics yesterday — two Violet Hold clears so far with very little trouble! — so I thought I’d build a similar post for heroic drops.  I made it through a few screens of heroic drops, picking out pally tanking pieces by hand, before I got tired of it.

Let’s be honest.  Those posts, without analysis, are just static snapshots of WoWHead searches.  Let’s learn to go straight to the source.

I sat down to come up with a set of filters which would let us narrow in on tanking items.  I had been putting this off because I thought it would be pretty tedious but, you know, it wasn’t all that bad.  I’m still surprised by the number of people I find in-game who haven’t heard of WoWHead.  I figure more exposure for them translates indirectly to more effective pugs for all of us ;).

The search we’ll be analyzing is linked as ‘tanking heroic drops‘ over on the sidebar.

database-itemsWe want to see all items. It’s tempting to zoom in on plate items, but then we miss rings, amulets, cloaks, weapons, etc.

usable-by-paladinThis is a great way to filter out a lot of items that we can’t use.  Staffs, relics, idols, daggers, ranged weapons — all that nonsense.  This is a lot easier than trying to filter those all out individually.

level-200 This is how we limit to five-man heroic drops.  We’ll see later that we have a filter for items that drop from heroics, but that includes “Heroic” versions of 10-mans, what the rest of us call 25-mans.  We just have to know that ilevel 200 is used for Heroic drops.  One way to see this is to look at a given item slot and sort by ilevel.  You’ll can correlate the source column with the ilevel column.

broad-filtersThese are our very broad searches.  Searching for strength and stamina here is for the benefit of the non-plate slots.  This stops us from seeing all those int and spirit rings, for example.

no-pvpHonestly, I’m not quite sure why we need this.  It seems that PvP items are sneaking in past the heroic drop filter, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.  I continue my fine tradition of pretending that PvP doesn’t exist by filtering these items right out.

If you take a look at the results now you’ll see that we’re getting really close.  There are still lots of drops for our DPS plate brethren in amongst our nice tanking pieces, though.

specific-filtersThis is where our specific filters come in.  If you flip through the results you’ll notice that haste, armor pen, and crit are never combined with tanking stats.  At least, as far as I could tell.  We filter almost all of the DPS items by only seeing items that don’t have these stats.  There are still some DPS pieces left that only have hit or expertise, though, because those two stats are definitely found along-side tanking stats.  That’s OK, it’s only a few.

We have to be careful with these specific searches.  They reflect how Blizzard is currently spending an item’s budget on stats for a given role.  It could change at any time, and it might not even be valid for higher level items which might start to spend their increased budget on more stats.  It’s very situational.  But this set of searches seems to work pretty well for heroic drops for now.

Et viola.  In the end we’re left with a nice comfortable list of about 40 tanking items that drop from heroic 5-mans in wrath.  Instead of a static blog post, though, you have an interactive WoWHead search page to browse through!  You can zoom in on item slots by refining the search with subcategories.  You can sort by a given stat that happens to be a priority.  You can search amongst the results for bosses and zones.  Good times.

So go, search your brains out.  Don’t let WoW blog authors do it for you.

Initial tanking trinkets in wrath

Saturday, December 20th, 2008

It’s pretty rare that we get snow up here in the Pacific Northwest.  Mother nature seems to have gone a little overboard reminding us of this by dumping a decent amount of show on us in the past few days.  So what do we do with ourselves after getting all bundled up under blankets and making a nice hot pot of tea?  Right, we learn about the tanking trinkets that arrived with wrath!  Clearly.

Yeah, I know, it’s another boring gear post.  I sympathize with folks who don’t also suffer from the specific kind of brain damagge which leads to enjoying this stuff.  I’m over here sympathizing while I happily play around on WoWHead.  Sympathy city, population me.

Why trinkets?  I noticed that they haven’t been seeing the same kind of upgrade love as the other slots in Northrend.  I’m questing in Zul’Drak and have run Drak’Tharon Keep and The Violet Hold and I’m still using the two defense trinkets that I had when I first arrived in Northrend.  There’s been a ginormous pile of melee DPS and caster trinkets but not so much with the tanking trinkets.

So I looked into it.  And, in the continuing tradition of using this blog to as a kind of research logbook, here’s what I found.

Raise your hand if you’re a miner and a smithy!  Yeah, me too.  We don’t get to play with these but we should mention ‘em for our tanking friends who got into more exotic professions.  The booster has a lame occasional threat buff, but at least it has a good deal of stamina.   The avoidance in the form of dodge, along with a decent shot of stamina, make the stone a step in the right direction.   The crab looks very nice indeed.  You could put whatever gems you needed in those slots to fine tune the stats that you’re after.

That’s it for quest rewards and non-heroic drops.  Wrath apparently doesn’t have a quest like Hellfire Peninsula’s Cruel’s Intentions which gave us an interesting trinket for our role right out of the gate.  I think this means that I’ll be trying to run HoL as often as I can while trying to reach uncrittable for heroics.  It would have to be Loken, though, wouldn’t it?

Here we have the drops from five-man heroics.  The gossamer’s proc won’t be winning any awards but that’s a heaping crap-ton of stamina.  In addition to helping juggle avoidance stats and diminishing returns, the block value from the talisman could provide a decent threat spike with shield of the righteous.  The offering would be a situational piece if you needed that little extra bit of mitigation and EH, it doesn’t feel like a core piece.

That’s it for trinkets we can buy from vendors.  I imagine it’ll be pretty common to use this and the seal when entering naxx.  Especially those of us who didn’t hit Northrend with nice toys from TBC content.

That’s a big chunk of defense.  That’ll make room to rotate in some other pieces from slots that were contributing to our uncrittable defense cap.

Is anyone else underwhelmed by these two drops?  I think I would have liked to have seen some on-equip avoidance from defender’s code.  I can see the rune being a decent DK tanking piece, with their parry fetish, but will the rest of us care?  My initial reaction is “meh”.

That seems to be it for the current content.  I’m assuming that we’ll be getting more treats as the rest of the wrath raids are rolled out.

Paladin tanking glyphs

Wednesday, December 17th, 2008

I haven’t talked about glyphs yet!  Honestly, it’s because I very rarely think about them.  They’re a relatively new way to make subtle fine tuning of our characters.  There’s a reasonably small number to choose from and they’re all available from the auction house.  We plonk down a bunch of gold and we’re done with it.  It’s certainly not as large a struggle as trying to gear up with dungeon drops, rep and crafting grinding, and so on.

All that said, it’s still an opportunity for us to be the bestest tank we can be.  Here, then, are my thoughts on the paladin glyphs that seem relevant to tanking.

Major Paladin Glyphs

  • [Glyph of Seal of Vengeance]. That’s not 10 expertise rating, that’s 10 expertise.  At level 80 that’s 89 expertise rating.  Bosses should parry our melee attacks, and get a reactive DPS boost, 2.5% less often.  If you squint just right you can see this as a mitigation glyph and that’s what tanks do.
  • [Glyph of Righteous Defense].  This can guarantee that, in some fights, our taunt won’t be resisted.  It’s situational, sure, but the consequences — say of failing to taunt on a tank switch  — can be a morale smooshing wipe.  I’d rather not roll those dice.
  • [Glyph of Judgement].  This combines well with our various seals and buffs to increase threat from Holy damage.  The more threat we have the less DPS has to hold back.
  • [Glyph of Spiritual Attunement].  Mana doesn’t seem to be a problem these days.  Certainly not a significant enough problem to justify swapping out any of the above three glyphs, anyway.
  • [Glyph of Avenger's Shield]. I can appreciate the use of greater single target threat.  I find myself enjoying the initial threat on multiple mobs more, though, so this doesn’t make the cut for me.
  • [Glyph of Consecration]. I avoid this because it messes up the 96969 rotation by extending the Consecration cooldown up to 10 seconds.

Minor Paladin Glyphs

Minor glyphs sure are minor!  I don’t care about the mana cost or duration of blessings so I didn’t see much choice.

You can read more analysis of paladin glyphs over at Blessing of Kings, ITankStuff, and — as always — Knaughty’s FAQ post on Maintankadin.